Keine 8. Staffel! - Trauerthread - Das Ende

Naja...es ist wirklich schade, dass GG zum Ende kommt, aber irgendwie war das klar...
Wir wissen ja noch nicht, wie die letzte Folge aussehen wird, vielleicht kommen Lorelai und Luke noch zusammen...Happy END!!! Wär doch schön. Big Grin

Schade, dass es vorbei ist..
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@ Balck pearl: wie sehr du mir auch aus der Seele sprichst, wäre es vielleicht besser, wenn du deinen Beitrag spoilern würdest, damit sich niemand aufregt, weil er was liest, was er nicht lesen wollte.

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danke fürs spoilern.. es war eigentlich nicht als spoiler gedacht, deshalb sorry, das war meine eigene meinung.. aber wie es scheint, dürfte ich den nagel auf den kopf getroffen haben und naja...*seufz* das waren nur meine befürchtungen*kopfschüttel*

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Es ist sehr schade das es keine 8. Staffel geben wird.

Mir ist durchaus bewußt das GG nur eine Serie ist und Trotzdem bin ich traurig.

Natürlich währe ein Happy End sehr schön (hab ich auch Jahrelang drauf gewartet).
Aber wenn ich so zurück blicke gab es bei GG kaum ein Happy End.
Meistens gab es einen Hacken oder ungewollte Konsiquenzen.

Denn was währe es denn für ein Ende wenn alle 4 (LG + LD / RG + LH) heiraten würden und sich Emily und Lorelai verstehen würden? Währe das nicht eher das Ende einer Seifenoper?

Bye
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gg darf nciht aufhören. erst charmed und jetzt gg.wie solls denn ohne die girls weitergehn???

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ich bin Mitglied in der Life and Death Brigade
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Dem Wehklagen zum Trotz

Im Wehklagen der vielen tausend Fans, im Greinen und leiden der geschundenen Seelen, im Wehmut des Abschieds und in den heißen Tränen des Verlustes, hört man plötzlich ein glockenhelles freudiges Lachen, ein melodiöser Dreiklang in den Ohren derer, die verzweifelt sind.
Und siehe die Heerscharen des Herrn bringen dem Gefolge frohe Kunde: „Hört“, so die engelsgleiche Stimme, „ich habe euch nur Gutes zu frohlocken. Seht, ich bin glücklich. Meine Seele ist leicht und mein Geist frei, deren Strapazen ist ein Ende gesetzt worden. Ich kann meine Gedanken schweifen lassen. Freuet euch mit mir und abermals sage ich, freuet euch, denn die Freiheit wurde mir geschenkt.“
Und das Volk blickt auf und die Tränen wichen aus ihren Gesichtern und hörbar wurde… ein unmutiges Knurren, eines bösen Hundes gleich. Soll die Alte ihre sch… Freude sonst wo hinschieben, wir haben unsere Lieblingssendung verloren!

Es wurde viel von Fans geschrieben in den letzten Tagen und die Beiträge variieren von Entsetzen über Verleugnung der Wahrheit, von Trotz bis Wut. Und viele Tränen! Die Klaviatur der Gefühle scheint endlos zu sein. Jeder von uns hat seine EIGENE Geschichte mit Gilmore und die ist jedem nur schwer begreifbar zu sein, der sich nie mit einer Serie richtig identifizieren konnte. Was bleiben würde, wäre reines Unverständnis.
Ich will euch auch nicht mit meinen Gilmore-Erinnerungen langweilen noch irgendwelche Tränen-Drück-Stories erzählen, es soll privat bleiben, aber ich verrate nicht zuviel, wenn ich sage, auch für mich geht eine besondere Zeit zu Ende.

Es wird viel von Schuld geredet die Tage, viel von Enttäuschung und Betrug. Und ja, ich sehe, warum sich viele Fans betrogen vorkommen, denn die Dinge hatten sich nicht so entwickelt wie gehofft. Doch Serien und ihre Entwicklungen gehören nicht uns, sondern denen, die sie sich ausdenken. Aber jetzt noch die Sau durchs Dorf zu treiben, scheint mir vertane Energie.

Es ist wie mit einer unglücklichen Liebesbeziehung. Der eine liebt noch und der andere trennt sich. Der noch liebt, leidet und der sich trennt, ist froh und glücklich. So gesehen, lieben wir noch, derweil Lauren sich froh und glücklich getrennt hat. Das ist legitim und in doppeltem Sinne schmerzhaft, weil wir ihr das Glück gönnen, aber ihr Glück ist unser Unglück. Ihre Freude über das Gilmore-Ende ist uns der Dorn im Auge und der Stich im Herz.
Nur ist es mit dem uneigennützigen Lieben so eine Sache. Wenn da nicht die elenden Erinnerungen wären! Die auftauchen und abtauchen, gerade so, wie es ihnen passt. Und die verpassten Chancen, die man gerne erlebt hätte, aber nie zu sehen bekommen hat.

In Gilmore haben immer die falschen geheiratet und die falschen bekamen die Kinder und so ging es 7 Staffeln lang, Töchter kamen und gingen, aber nie das, was alle sehen wollten.

Wir hatten das längste Vorspiel der Welt mit 4 Staffeln bis ein besagter Kuss kam, wir brauchten 2 weitere Staffeln, um endlich das „I love you“ zu hören. Wir bekamen die falsche Hochzeit am falschen Ort mit dem falschen Bräutigam. Alles war irgendwie falsch und gerade deswegen, ja, vielleicht gerade deswegen haben wir es jede Woche gesehen. Denn das Leben geht nicht gerade seinen Weg und es kann nicht jeden Tag Weihnachten sein, wie Lauren selbst sagte.

Deswegen können wir mit allem Stolz sagen, wir sind dabei gewesen!
Bei Rory´s erstem Kuss, bei Lorelais erster beinahe Hochzeit, bei Rorys erstem Mal, bei dem ersten Streit von Mutter und Tochter, bei der ersehnten Versöhnung, bei dem Gefühl „There was a moment“ und bei dem Schock, dass dieser Moment, leider auch vergänglich ist, wie alles im Leben.

Wie waren dabei und können mit Recht sagen, es war trotz allem eine gute Zeit! Wir haben Fremde im Internet getroffen, die Freunde wurden. Wir haben uns als Familie gefühlt und nun werden wir gemeinsam trauern, weil man das so macht in einer Familie und mit Freunden.
Und wir wünschen dem ganzen Cast von Gilmore Girls, den Spielern und den Machern alles Gute. Das nennt man Fair Play! Sie haben zwar nicht immer fair mit uns gespielt, aber wir sind gute Verlierer in diesem Quoten-Millionen-Dollar-Spiel!

Nur eins wünsche ich mir: keine schmutzige Wäsche waschen! Kein „Der war aber so ätzend am Set.“ Kein „Was bin ich froh, dass ich diese Ätz-Fresse nicht mehr sehen muss“. Bleibt fair, das seid ihr uns schuldig! Schlagt euch dort, wo wir es nicht sehen und hören können. Und kein Bedauern darüber, dass ihr 7 Jahre gutes Geld verdient habt. Es sei euch gegönnt, es ist euer Lohn dafür!

Was aus den Anderen wird wie Alexis Bledel, Liza Weil, Keiko Agena, Kelly Bishop usw. weiß ich nicht, aber Lauren werden wir im Augen behalten. Und wir werden uns mit ihr freuen und uns über ihre Outfits unterhalten und wir werden sicher weiterhin viel Spaß mit ihr haben. Da bin ich mir ganz sicher.

Bon Voyage und denkt in eurer Zeitreise mal uns!
© Koile 2007
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OMG,Koile!!!! ich liebe deinen text Smile
und,na klar bleiben wir Lauren auf der Spur Wink ich für meinen teil aufjedenfall ^^

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"And their ability to do something over and over and not complain or not need a Starbucks..." (LG on the animals at EA)
ava/sig by sanja (ff)
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Ich muss mal abwarten bis sich meine immer wieder hochkochende Wut gelegt hat. Laurens blöde Kommentare machen es nicht besser.

Ich kann nur sagen dass ich schon mit einigen gesprochen hab die meinten nach denen Äußerungen ist Lauren für den Rest aller Tage bei ihnen unten durch.

Mal sehen wann sie merkt was solche Kommentare auslösen.. hoffentlich bald, sonst sind ihre Fans weg

It's Here: Lauren Graham's Final Gilmore Girls Interview
The fast-approaching finale of Gilmore Girls is depressing on so many levels; I get a lump in my throat contemplating even a few of them. It's the end of an era, for starters. Lauren Graham — the closest thing Hollywood is ever likely to get to another Katharine Hepburn — may never again play a character as given to bantering at breakneck speed as Lorelai. For that matter, she may never find verbal sparring partners as worthy as Kelly Bishop and Scott Patterson. But maybe worst of all, the series' demise probably means I'll be talking to my favorite Girl a lot less frequently. With that weighing heavily on my mind, as we began what would be our last interview of the golden Girls age, I held nothing back. In turn, neither did she.

I hear you're going to have a lot more free time on your hands.
Lauren Graham: Yes, it would seem that way.

Are you relived that it's over?
Graham: I feel that way, which is not without feeling mixed and thankful for the experience. But, yeah, I feel relieved.

All indications were that it was coming back for 13 episodes. What happened?
Graham: Well, you know, there was a lot that went back and forth by the time the [13 episode thing] came out. I had sort of said to them a couple of months ago that I didn't see it coming back, and they had asked to just give them some time to figure something out that would make it work. Both Alexis and I have felt tired, and also creatively like the show was in a place where we were either at the end or very close to it, and so we really couldn't imagine another season. I think they were trying to tempt us with 13, which was tempting, but ultimately just wasn't going to work for them. We needed the situation to be so ideal, and I think it just wasn't meant to be. I do want to say that the studio and the network were very generous, and very respectful in this whole process. It was things like… We didn't want to work the schedule we'd been working, but if we're working a lesser schedule, what is the show? The way we'd like to have done it would not have necessarily been good for the show. And while there are many wonderful actors on the show, right now you have me working six to seven days an episode, and Alexis doing about the same. To do anything less than that just wasn't going to be the same show. They tried to make it appealing for us, and we tried to be imaginative, and then at the end of the day it just felt like we were trying to do something impossible.

Did you and Alexis band together during negotiations?
Graham: Not in a formal way, but we certainly discussed what our hopes were. We were very open with each other. Most of our conversations were, "Can we imagine coming back."

Is it true that Alexis was the harder sell?
Graham: I don't think that's true. I did formally say at one point, "I'm not coming back." Then they thought, "Well, can we do it with just Alexis?" I don't want to speak for her, but we both went back and forth. Ultimately, neither of us wanted to do it without the other one.

Was that possibility ever discussed?
Graham: If she was in a place where she wanted, like, her own show or her own spin-off… They were trying to think of everything. There was a time when we thought maybe I would produce and not be on the show in the same capacity. You know, I've been at this for a long time, and I feel ready to move on, but they were trying to find a way to make it work. There were a lot of scenarios. I had very open conversations with Dawn Ostroff. We tried, but they ultimately said, "You know what? This is just too complicated." And I felt SO glad, because I don't think it would've been the same show for another 13. We were trying to find a way we could have a slightly easier schedule, and there was really no way to do that and still have it be Gilmore Girls.

Were you happy with the show creatively this season?
Graham: I was happy with the PROCESS. I really enjoyed the writers. I felt every year, even under Amy's leadership, that the show evolved. For the last episode, we tried to match the final shot with the first scene from the pilot, so we went back and watched the pilot — which I haven't seen for so long. And the show is really different from that pilot, which was more dramatic at the time than your typical WB show. And I think it evolved and got more comedic over the years; every year was an evolution. This year was strange sometimes because I had a lot less to say, and that was really weird. For some people I'm sure that was great, but I would find myself in long scenes where I was not rattling on, and it was just really weird to me. And so I did sort of question, "Are we keeping this character consistent?" And they were responsive to me.

When we spoke last year you mentioned that you'd like to someday be given a producer credit on the show, but you said there was no way Warner Bros. would allow it. Well, this year they gave you a producer credit. What changed?
Graham: I really felt strongly that I was doing the job of a producer, and that in order to imagine moving forward — which I was imaging at the time — I really hoped they would recognize the difference in the job I was doing and eventually they very nicely did. When the creator of the show is gone, the actors end up being the people who have been there the longest. And I got more involved in where the story was headed, and felt that I was having more of an active role. I just thought it was warranted.

I heard that you requested some changes to the finale script…
Graham: How do you hear these things Mike!? Where will all your moles go now that the show is over! (Laughs)

Good question! So, what changes did you ask for?
Graham: My feeling was [the episode] just felt too light to me — even as a season finale. I thought this should be an opportunity to say good-bye, or at least have some sort of acknowledgement of all these characters. And we had this opportunity because there's a party in the town, and I just felt that I wanted it to be more dramatic. And David Rosenthal was extremely responsive — more than he needed to be. So he went back and took another look at it, with more of an eye to, "How can we acknowledge all of these characters? Give everyone a moment." I felt it was important to go a little deeper.

Do you think Luke and Lorelai fans will be satisfied with how things end?
Graham: Yeah. You know, the other thing I felt strongly about is that this is a show that is ultimately about these girls. It started with this mother-daughter relationship, and we haven't been a show where big events happen, so I always worried that there would be some pressure to… (Laughs) My extreme example was always, "Double wedding! If the show ends with a double ending I don't know what I'm going to do!" I just didn't want there to be a big event, but there's definitely a DIRECTION that I think will be satisfying.

Were you surprised at how reluctant fans were to let Luke and Lorelai go when she went off and married Christopher this season?
Graham: Well, it was a tough story to follow. We got married really impulsively. I just always wanted [the Luke/Lorelai/Christopher triangle] to be as complex as it can be so that there wasn't an obvious choice. It's like when you go see some romantic comedy movie and you're like, "Well, OBVIOUSLY she shouldn't be with THAT guy." They make it too easy. I just sort of wanted them to write Christopher in a way that made it a real love triangle. But everything happened so fast. But the Luke and Lorelai story is where the show started, so, to me, that's just an indication that the fans have really been invested. That SHOULD be the thing they're rooting for, because that's what the show set up. That makes complete sense.

Conspiracy theorists maintain that you pushed for a Lorelai/Christopher romance because of your prickly relationship with Scott Patterson.
Graham: You're the conspiracy theorist! (Laughs) I finally figured it out!

No, I'm not! You wouldn't believe how many questions I get about this. Seriously. Is it much ado about nothing?
Graham: Yes, it was overblown. I mean, I am closer, personally, to David [Sutcliffe]. And we've gone to DINNER together, and I always thought that maybe people thought I was trying to give him some sort of advantage because we're friends. But that's not it. Like I said, when a show is continuing for so long, I didn't want there to be an obvious choice, because then the show is over. There's nowhere to go, so I always argued for other [romances] because I thought it made the story better. But I ALWAYS felt that it would cheat the fans to not have this [Luke and Lorelai] relationship be important in the whole of the show.

How WOULD you characterize your working relationship with Scott over the years?
Graham: Totally great. It's a working relationship, like most of them are. But he was so great in that part. I really loved my scenes with him and the chemistry we had. Our banter was among the most fun stuff to do.

Is it bittersweet ending without Amy?
Graham: Yeah. What I hoped — and this is not to take away from David, who I had a really nice year with — was that she would write the finale. But that's not the way she works. She's either there 100 percent; she couldn't just come in and pick up another story that she didn't lay the groundwork for and finish it. I wish she had been more involved this year, because I was playing a piece of her that is so specifically her. I missed her writing. She's unique.

Have you spoken to her since the announcement was made?
Graham: We e-mailed and we're supposed to have a drink this week.

Are you going to try and get her to divulge the final four words she had planned to end the series with?
Graham: Oh, right — I forgot about that. I think she would've given it up to me had we known this was the end. That was the other weird thing about ending the show like this. When we finished, there was a 50/50 chance we'd be returning. So when we left the wrap party, we were like, "Bye! See ya next season!" I mean it was emotional, but it would've been much more emotional. But HAD she known, I think she would've given it up and we would've worked it in.

Favorite memories?
Graham: Oh, gosh. There was a real kind of HIGH — that's the only way I can describe it — when we'd get these big athletic speeches and then nail it after 35 takes. (Laughs) And that is a feeling that I really haven't had with another part. Just this… I can't explain it. The closest I can come is sort of in musical theater. To do that language all systems have to be go; you have to really have a lot of concentration. And THAT feeling was really exhilarating. I'll miss that experience as an actor. There's just a specific kind of sense of humor and music to the way [Amy] would write these speeches that I'll really miss. And these are people that I loved, whether I see them every day or not. Alexis and I fell over laughing man, many times — partially out of exhaustion. (Laughs) We really bonded in a very unique way. And I'll miss the feeling of [being around] a crew, all of whom I know and feel really at home with and really supported by. That was not an easy show to do and that crew was really great.

Favorite episode?
Graham: Oh my God. I literally can't even remember the last one.

Maybe a scene that stood out?
Graham: There really were so many. The dinner tables, while a drag to shoot because it takes FOREVER getting all the angles, were really, really fun.

So, when's the Gilmore Girls reunion?
Graham: (Laughs) We're totally doing the Gilmore Girls movie. I'm never, ever going to do anything else. There's Gilmore Girls: The Musical. The line of clothing called Lorelai. And the perfume called Stars Hollow... You know, I'm promoting Evan Almighty, which comes out in June. And I have been reading a lot. And sleeping. (Laughs) But I'm auditioning for things, and I'm going to try and do another movie soon.

Would you do another TV series?
Graham: I would do another TV series, but not right away. I love TV. I think I'd do a half-hour single camera. But I'm going to really just enjoy this time and make sure I'm ready to do something new. If I had the best thing in front of me right now I don't know that I'd be able to be excited about it 'cause I think [you have to make room] to let the other thing pass. So, yeah, I'd love to take a year and see what else I can do.

Anything you'd like to say to the fans?
Graham: Just that I've been truly thankful for their support and for their fanaticism (laughs) and their investment in these characters through all the ups and downs of a seven year process. I can't tell you what a kick I get out of [hearing from the fans], especially the younger people over the years who have grown up with the show and have [developed] a bond with a family member from a different generation while watching it together. I hope when I'm 55 and I've been out of a job for a long time and those girls are running the studios that they remember Lorelai Gilmore.
(tvguide.com)
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@ Karana ja eine Übersetzung wäre toll. Danke Big Grin
Achtung: automatische Beitragszusammenführung!
auch Sat1 pfeift es heute von den Dächern, es wird keine weitere Staffel geben. Die letzte Folge der Staffel läuft in 2 Wochen in den USA.
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karana schrieb:And I think it evolved and got more comedic over the years; every year was an evolution.
Oh ja die 7. war echt ein Brüller - eine Tour de comédie der feinsten Sorte.
karana schrieb:You know, the other thing I felt strongly about is that this is a show that is ultimately about these girls.
BlaBla - aber die Girls sind "groß" und uns interessiert nunmal nicht nur wie Rory und Lorelai glücklich schwätzeln,Kaffee trinken und Fast Food futtern.Come on.
karana schrieb:I'm promoting Evan Almighty, which comes out in June.
Das musste ja nochmal schnell genannt werden.....
karana schrieb:Anything you'd like to say to the fans?
Graham: Just that I've been truly thankful for their support and for their fanaticism (laughs) and their investment in these characters through all the ups and downs of a seven year process. I can't tell you what a kick I get out of [hearing from the fans], especially the younger people over the years who have grown up with the show and have [developed] a bond with a family member from a different generation while watching it together. I hope when I'm 55 and I've been out of a job for a long time and those girls are running the studios that they remember Lorelai Gilmore.
Sie hat genau das erfasst,was uns so traurig macht-aber wirklich interessieren tut es sie nicht.
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